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Should the government support a "progressive" tax system?

i Trevor Cartwright
Category: Politics
Date: 06/03/2013
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Should the government tax rich people at a higher percentage than poor people? Or should everyone be taxed the same percentage regardless of income?

Suppose a man makes $1,000,000.00 a year and another man only make $20,000.00  year. Would it be fair to make the richer man pay a higher percentage like 40% and to make the second guy only pay 20%? Proponents of this view believe that rich people are ethically required to pay their" fair share."

Or should everyone be taxed the same percentage regardless of income? Suppose that everyone has to pay a flat tax at 20%. A man who makes $1,000,000.00 has to pay $200,000.00, while a man who makes $20,000.00 only has to pay $4,000.00 a year. Proponents of this view say that government's job is to protect private property, not to level the socioeconomic playing field.

posted by Trevor Cartwright | suggest edit

Yes

Yes, the government should make rich people pay more.

No

No, the government should tax everyone the same percentage.

DEBATE

add your argumensts in favor or against the issue

arguments supporting the issue
arguments against the issue

1. Rich people are obligated to pay their fair share.

2. Poor people will be slaves to the rich.

3. Pure Capitalism enslaves the masses and damages the economy.

posted by Trevor Cartwright | suggest edit

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Today i learned that some people are much happier when everyone has the same amount of things as everyone

posted by Colten Hoffmeier | suggest edit

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A person I know was raised in a Socialist environment and the government provided everything for them and some enjoyed the benefits of this type of government

 

posted by Colten Hoffmeier | suggest edit

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Why do rich people have such a problem with giving things up? One of my friends is one of the poorest people I know, and his family is always helping out in the community and giving things up, and they probably only make 30,000 dollars a year

posted by Cole Duffy | suggest edit

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$600,000 is plenty to do anything with your business plus those people would make that much each YEAR how much are you making and how unfair is it that just because you didnt get an education that you just get left in the dust.

posted by Colten Hoffmeier | suggest edit

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also sometimes people that are rich dont get any hard earned money and they just inherit it

posted by Colten Hoffmeier | suggest edit

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I DO NOT SUPPORT SOCIALISM. AGAIN I DO NOT SUPPORT SOCIALISM.

posted by Colten Hoffmeier | suggest edit

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"Additionally, we need Congress, right now, to enact a minimum tax on high incomes. I would suggest 30 percent of taxable income between $1 million and $10 million, and 35 percent on amounts above that." http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/26/opinion/buffett-a-minimum-tax-for-the-wealthy.html this was written by Warren E. Buffett one of the richest men in the united states check out the article

posted by Colten Hoffmeier | suggest edit

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Trevor the tax doesnt keep going up it stays at 30 and 35 and the rich make billions half the time and invest it in stocks so that they can make more money to help themselves and not their workers and when they do start businesses half of the time they ship those jobs to foreign countries so that THEY can have all the money

posted by Colten Hoffmeier | suggest edit

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And thats just selfish

posted by Colten Hoffmeier | suggest edit

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This side is dumb

posted by smitty | suggest edit

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the wealthy needs to pay there share because if they don't we will have to and most of us are already struggling with the tax rate right now, the upper class can help to prevent having homeless on the street, although they make jobs to help the lower classes how many of though jobs pay enough to satisfy there needs then stacked on top of that, there is tax. I say the upper class can pay a little more to help this economy

posted by Jred07 | suggest edit

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Trevor if you have never heard of people outsourcing jobs it does happen it happens a lot

posted by Colten Hoffmeier | suggest edit

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I think rich people should probably pay more, because poor people cant pay a lot, but also i dont think rich people should pay more because its not fare... /:

posted by karnett | suggest edit

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The rich should pay more because if the middle class are being charged the same its not fair that the middle pay the same as rich and one is rich one is not COME ON OBAMA GIVE MY FAMILY SOME GRACE TOOO!!!!

posted by Buddy Binen | suggest edit

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Why are we taking tax advice from Scooby-Doo up there.

posted by August Ricardo | suggest edit

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its only fair if a billonaire gives like 60 % of it all i mean if he is already a billion dollars he will probaly earn it all back so its only fair if a poorer man earns not as much money back i think that obama is gonna run us so deep into the ground its outrageous

posted by Jeremy Dugan | suggest edit

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rich people pay more!!!

posted by heyheyhey | suggest edit

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But Jeremy, the man WORKS for his money. Then Obama comes along and takes it.

posted by August Ricardo | suggest edit

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@smitty you dont know what your talking about!!

posted by heyheyhey | suggest edit

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jeremy is rich and he is on our side, dose that not tell you something?

posted by Jred07 | suggest edit

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it just makes sense that people pay the same amount of taxes im with colten im not for socialism if this keeps happening than the rich will pay less and less and the middle class will pay practically their entire pay check ear tax season And i find this to be a load of IT i agree with jared as well im rich and im on this side what does that tell you

posted by Jeremy Dugan | suggest edit

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@smitty your side is dumb loser

posted by Jeremy Dugan | suggest edit

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1. Government has no business deciding who gets to keep more or less of their money.

2. "A government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul"

3. The progressive tax system kills incentive, and the overall economy suffers.

posted by Trevor Cartwright | suggest edit

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Why should a wealthy person who uses less government services be required to pay substantially more for them? How can it be fair or just to charge people different amounts for the same thing?

posted by Phil Kallberg | suggest edit

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I think that the people should all pay the same percentage because if the rich payed more they wouldnt be able to make more jobs. If the rich dont make more jobs the economy would crumble.

posted by Trevor Barry | suggest edit

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The reason why i think that we should all have the same tax system is because if i was a rich person and i spent my entire life to get rich and then the government told me to pay more i would be really mad and i would get all the rich people and have a rich people mob. If the rich aren't rich anymore than we won't have as many jobs as we have now because the rich invest for jobs!!! 13ossguy

posted by Jordan Gallegos | suggest edit

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i think that EVERYONE should pay the same amount even if the rich are snoby and stuff. Everyone started off poor then became rich as they went. it wont be fair if the rich is forced to give more money. they equally work as hard to earn enough money

posted by Aaliyahjean Villalba | suggest edit

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If the rich are paying everything then they cant make the jobs. and the econonmy collapses and then they dont wanna make the money so then we would turn into a poor country. It wouldnt work plus 50% of the people are already getting provided for by the goverment and as of right now we are pretty screwed with our debt.

posted by Trevor Barry | suggest edit

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colten thats because they have to make a effort and they were so used to the goverment providing for them

posted by Trevor Barry | suggest edit

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Try it from YOUR footsteps:Imagine yourself working very hard and FINALLY you earn money :D but then taxes come in and u have to pay about 20-40% of taxes MORE than the poor! How would you feel HUHHHHH!!!!???? Poor and rich people work the same it's just that the money is given more to them. EQUAL PAYYY!!

posted by Aaliyahjean Villalba | suggest edit

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Cole thats their choice nobody is forcing them to do that plus they are getting welfare and they arent the poorest people in the country their are people that have no income.The rich dont have such a problem giving

posted by Trevor Barry | suggest edit

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higher tax rates do not equal more money. look at the states that have the highest tax rates- California and New York to be specific.Both are sitting on the verge of bankruptcy. the idea behind a progressive tax system is to make the rich pay more in percentage.

posted by Trevor Barry | suggest edit

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essentially by supporting this action you are saying people who are successful ought to be punished for their success by a government who cannot manage its own money. The idea of a progressive tax system is a socialist idea as it essentially brings everyone to the same place financially regardless of work put in

posted by Trevor Barry | suggest edit

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It is not fair to tax the rich more because maybe the worked for their money. Just because thay have more, doesnt mean they should pay more. They should be more generous, but some of them aren't

posted by smitty | suggest edit

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They had the money and they invested it. They should not be punished for being successful. Just because someone isn't as successful doesn't mean the successful should pay for them Colten

posted by smitty | suggest edit

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Thats a lie the rich just by investing makes more jobs it doesnt matter their intention if they just invest it makes more job and tell me colten who told you they ship jobs to other countries because thats a lie.

posted by Trevor Barry | suggest edit

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Just because you have something does not mean you should have to give it to other people it really isnt selfish

posted by smitty | suggest edit

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its selfish how is it selfish its selfish for them to work hard to make money and their sucsess is just taken away and given to the poor because they dont work as hard

posted by Trevor Barry | suggest edit

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I think that both poor and wealthy people work hard, but the wealthy get more bang for their buck. They may have had a better opportunity, a college education, whatever. Wealth can depend on circumstance. I am torn on this one.

 

posted by jw9926 | suggest edit

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everyone should be taxed the same because the rich people earn there own money

posted by Joshua Gooss | suggest edit

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what is the purpose of making money when you have to give it up?

posted by jilianlmorejon | suggest edit

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i think everybody should tax the same

posted by Matthew Forman | suggest edit

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Rich people probably worked hard for their money so they should keep it

posted by chloencdonald | suggest edit

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they should get to keep the money they earn

posted by LonzyA | suggest edit

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(andre) rich people earn there money so is it fare for them to have to pay more because they are successful

posted by 4895768943896345 | suggest edit

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when a working man is working a crap ton they shouldn't be paying more. He gets what he works for only to have it taken by the Government.

posted by August Ricardo | suggest edit

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if they tax the wealthy more there will be no upper class and if there is no upper class the small business fail and when they fail more people will be running off of the governments money and our government will become bankrupt

posted by Amy Apfel | suggest edit

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we need to keep our money. If I make a billion dollars than why should i give a ton of it to the government when some guy that doesn't have a job and doesnt work as hard as i do only gives a tiny bit of his money, now that is messed up

posted by Mark Costolo | suggest edit

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it should all be the same dont you think

posted by Zachary Foster | suggest edit

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If you spent you whole life trying to be a millionare or a billionare so you put you life to the make money and if a person is poor and only making a low amount of money than the sould try so risk the money.

posted by Mitchell Dolinar | suggest edit

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How is it fair if people are smart and earned thier money why should they pay more. Also lets say you people who voted yes soon became rich so you would like to pay more?

posted by MCMAN21 | suggest edit

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yeah i think the government should make taxes equal because all the rich people need to keep there money so America is even MORE bancrupt

posted by chloencdonald | suggest edit

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it should be the same the government just wants to rip people off and make the rich loose their money

posted by Zachary Foster | suggest edit

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I THINKEVERY BODYSHOULD PAY THE SAME

posted by Matthew Forman | suggest edit

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MERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

posted by Mark Costolo | suggest edit

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They should pay the same amount because it isn't there fault that the poor people didn't want to go to school or get a job

posted by SierraBram | suggest edit

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No, taxes should be fair and square. Over here and over there. Everywhere!

posted by AlexanderHawke | suggest edit

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